EP 75 - Presence or Programs?

With: Jon Torres

Ministries have often been challenged with the question, should we have a more structured program or toss the structure and focus solely on God's presence? In this episode, we discuss how ministry leaders can balance pursuing God’s presence with building effective church programs. We discuss why leaders often feel torn between the two, how to avoid over-programming, and ways to reframe programs as tools for discipleship rather than just events. We’ll also look at emerging leadership trends in the next generation, what young people are really seeking in a church, and practical advice for staying spiritually grounded while stewarding systems and strategies.

Series: Bethany All Access Podcast

EP 1 - Breaking Church Growth Barriers

Pt. 2

EP 2 - Healthy Shepherding Cultures

Dr. Andy Yarborough

Pt. 3

EP 3 - Church and Money

Pastor Wayne Brown

Pt. 4

EP 4 - Exercising Your Church's Creative Muscle

Pastor Wayne Brown

More Podcasts

EP 73 - The Next Generation of Design

In this episode, Josi Laporte, a NextGen graphic designer, dives into the role of graphic design and creative media in s...

Sep 4

EP 72 - Leading Through Difficulty

When life's storms hit, how do you respond — with tears, questions, or immediate faith? In this candid conversation, Rob...

Aug 21

EP 71 - Family Boundaries & Ministry

In this heartfelt conversation, we talk with Melanie Stockstill, the wife of Larry Stockstill, to explore the real-life ...

Aug 7

EP 70 - "After The Yes" - The Project Puerto Rico Story

In this episode, we talk with Pastor Cameron Wiggins about how Bethany Church’s Project Puerto Rico embodies a deep comm...

Jul 24

EP 69 - 3 Stages To Living Out Your Mission

Joel Dicharry, a missionary in Kenya discusses three distinct stages we walk through as we discover and live out God’s c...

Jul 10

EP 68 - Worship After Sunday

In this episode Nick Day, a seasoned worship leader, shares his journey and insights on leading worship beyond the platf...

Jun 26

EP 67 - NextGen at Home and Abroad

Join us as we talk with Kenofi Terfa, a youth pastor from Sweden, about the unique challenges of reaching young people i...

Jun 12

EP 66 - NextGen: Will the Church Adapt?

In this episode, we explore how we can reach the next generation and shape the future of the church by engaging and ment...

May 29

Browse All Podcasts